Judgement Day

On judgment day, there will be atheists who meet Love face-to-face and say, “That was you?  Please forgive me, I didn’t recognize you when I saw you.”

On judgment day, there will be believers who meet Love for the first time and say, “who are you?  What do you want with me?”

Knowing someone’s name, address and work isn’t the same as actually knowing the person, after all.

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4 thoughts on “Judgement Day

    • Dan, the picture isn’t mine – I forget where it came from. You are welcome to steal it for yourself, but I’m a staunch proponent of the biblical teaching of universal reconciliation. So I’d prefer my name or website not be attached if your site promotes the usual teaching that God sends people off to eternal torment. I can’t tell from what you have up at the moment what direction you’re going in. If you want to know more about what the bible teaches about hell, I have a page with essays you can check out here:
      https://theupsidedownworld.com/hot-topics/hell/

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  1. I’ve been reading your blog this afternoon and have been reexamining some of my simple assumptions about what the Bible says about certain topics. I have not dug too deeply into Universal reconciliation, but am pondering it today. Maybe this Judgement Day post is just supposed to make readers think, but doesn’t your first line about atheists saying “please forgive me,” directly contradict Romans 1:20 (people are without excuse)? Also I read your other post about the lake of fire really being a lake of divine purification, but how do you Explain the description of God’s wrath elsewhere in scripture? I’m just looking at Romans 1 and 2 in front of me and it’s hard to read it in a Universalist kind of way. I realize you say that there is inherent punishment in this purification process, but it doesn’t feel like that’s what these chapters are warning against. What does the word “perish” mean in 2:12?

    I also agree that a gospel of fear is not very appealing or even healthy, but that doesn’t mean eternal suffering is not a reality. Thanks for your response.

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    • First of all, welcome to my little upside down world, Herb. I hope that even if you and I don’t mind meld you will find the things I write here interesting, enlightening and helpful in some way.

      OK, to your specific questions. First, regarding atheists, in my post I say that they recognize and serve Love, which is in reality the very essence, truth and being of God. So in my estimation, this means that they recognize God in reality, if not in name and according to the concept of God that they have rejected. I would say that the person who rejects and refuses to submit to and serve Love is the one who is “without excuse”, even if they walk around day and night proclaiming their faith in God.

      As to the matter of God’s wrath and perishing, there are a couple of issues. One is that there is nothing in the text that indicates that the result of God’s wrath or of perishing is an eternity of torment in hell. Rather, that’s something that we’ve been taught to read into the text. Also, Paul goes to great lengths to warn against judging in Romans 2, so doesn’t it seem rather odd and highly inappropriate that we then turn around and use this text as evidence which allows us to declare God’s judgment on people?

      At any rate, to the broader question of God’s wrath, judgment and perishing from a universalist perspective, obviously exploring it in full would take a book. But in brief, God’s wrath is the wrath of Love. It is redemptive, not destructive. It’s a parent’s wrath when their child engages in harmful behavior. A decent parent seeks after their child’s well being, no matter how angry they are or how bad the child’s behavior. Our children fear and hopefully try to avoid triggering our anger, despite the fact that they well know that our anger isn’t going to lead to their ultimate destruction. God is certainly not less than us in this regard.

      And perishing is merely death. So those who sin without the law will also die without the law. That is, their death will not result in judgment according to the law, but result in judgment according to the natural which as Paul says is written into their hearts so that, even though they do not have the law, they still abide by it in their actions and understanding of what is proper and improper. But, again, to read this as condemnation to eternal hell requires us to read into the text what is not actually present there.

      At any rate, one of the things which you realize when you try to read scriptures with fresh eyes, rather than through the lens we’ve been given is that the bible actually has very little to say about the nature of God’s judgment after we die. Most of what we think we know in that regards is just us reading into the text what we’ve been told is there. If you are interested in reading my own thoughts on what God’s judgment after death entails, you can find them here:
      https://theupsidedownworld.com/2013/01/07/how-will-we-be-judged/

      I hope that helps! -R

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